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Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

Chris — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:38:07 -0000

Dave Niewert over at Orcinus has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.

Check out "Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis" (down the page, left hand side) for a 'tome' on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.

Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

Maxo — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:19:17 -0000

I think you need to research Hitler a little better and understand his political ideals. He HATED communism. He considered it the cockroach-child of Jews, designed to infest and eventually destroy our world so that the Jews could hold world power. It was through socialism and a strong German state he meant to squash out all Jews and their communistic ideals.

Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

MD — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:15:44 -0000

Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.

Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

Daniel Miessler — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:13:13 -0000

Good stuff, thanks.

Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

Derek — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:14:24 -0000

Quick comments:

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<li>Along with nationalism usually comes intolerance for other "types" of people (ie. racism)</li>
<li>Theoretical communism strives for equality among all citizens, therefore a democratic communist society (as proposed by Marx) is possible.</li>
</ul>

Re: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.”

Steven G. Harms — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:02:20 -0000

Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they're near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.

Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries.

It's not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from papa to il papa ( pope ) to il duce ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of "the family" may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.

I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that's going a bridge too far.

There's a start :)