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danielmiessler.com | grep understanding: Windows is IE, OS X is Firefox

  • Ken · 1 year ago

    Very true.

  • matthew · 1 year ago

    There isn't anywhere near the numbers on Firefox and/or OS X to come to these conclusions.


    In regards to Firefox, the users who would be most vulnerable use whatever comes with the PC. Until that is Firefox we won't be able to make solid comparison.


    I personally would be interested in seeing how the masses would react to websites asking them to install FF extensions.

  • dale · 1 year ago

    I think you've come to a decent conclusion but the 2 OS's are closer than you think. Apple has already been rolling out tons of security fixes in their updates but they don't get nearly the amount of press as Microsoft does. All that needs to be done is get code on the box - at that point you're pwned for all intents and purposes.


    One comment on IE though - I believe ActiveX is the real security problem if you were to try and find one thing. I actually do all my "secure" work with IE and have all the confidence in it (and yes, I know what I'm doing and make quite a nice living in the network security field as well as tons of experience in the systems world).

  • dre · 1 year ago

    Yes, but for every software assurance program also came a true-and-tried leader / evangelist for security -


    Microsoft Windows :: Michael Howard
    Microsoft code :: David LeBlanc
    Microsoft Internet Explorer :: Window Snyder
    I can give many examples for the Mozilla Project, but check this out:
    Mozilla Firefox :: also Window Snyder


    Apple Mac OS X :: whoever last worked on FreeBSD before version 4 or maybe the person responsible for Leopard's correct use of ProPolice/SSP
    Apple code :: nobody?
    Apple Safari :: certainly nobody if ISE found a vulnerability in a TIFF library within a few hours of owning an iPhone and downloading WebKit

  • kuza55 · 1 year ago

    I've already given up on Firefox security; they're both equally bad these days (both in terms of actual PR and security bullshit), and the only thing keeping Firefox users safer is the same thing keeping Mac users safer than Windows users; obscurity.


    So while I'll continue to use Firefox, I'm not using it for the core browser itself, but rather the useful extensions which exist for it that I utilise.